Love Cafe and Bar is at 430 Second Avenue (between 24th and 25th Street) opened on Sunday, May 18. Interesting-looking menu. We can’t wait to try it. MENU-Love Cafe and Bar
Good luck and love, love, love.
By Sabina Mollot
A taco restaurant and bar that had been close to signing a lease at East Midtown Plaza has already made a run for the border.
Though initially hoping to move into a retail space last occupied by a Carvel shop and have outdoor seating for 40 people as well as 30 indoor seats, the owners of Cascabel Taqueria pulled out last week. The reason apparently was that the restaurant, which offers bottomless cocktails during brunch at its two uptown locations, would have been limited to a wine and beer license only and would have had to close earlier than its desired closing time of 1 a.m.
The limitations, recently imposed by EMP’s co-op board, came after a number of tenants blasted the plan to have any kind of bar operating outside on the area of the complex known as the triangle. This is currently a common area on East 24th Street and Second Avenue used by residents as well as the public. It’s a popular spot to have lunch when the weather permits it and there’s no alcohol drinking allowed there.
Residents were first made aware of the plan to open the restaurant, called Taco 1584, at a Community Board 6 meeting last month when owners David Chiong and Elizabeth Gaudeau requested the board’s blessing for a liquor license.
Shelley Winfield, an EMP resident, told Town & Village she was at that meeting and told the owners she hadn’t heard about any restaurant coming. In response, she said the owners said the co-op complex’s board wanted them to sign a lease but first start the process of getting a liquor license.
Winfield voiced her opposition to the idea due to noise concerns and CB6’s Business Affairs and Street Activities committee instructed the owners to come back with ideas on how to mitigate concerns about noise. However, shortly before the meeting that was scheduled for Thursday, April 24, the restaurant’s application was pulled from the agenda.
Winfield later said that though she was opposed to a bar, she would welcome a restaurant. “The co-op benefits when the commercial spaces are leased.” Still, she recalled living in another apartment on the second floor within EMP nearby the proposed space and how “noises could be heard from the street.”
Another resident against the plan was John Small, who noted that the space Cascabel would have moved into was occupied by a bar decades ago, which, he said, caused problems with noise, transients coming through the complex at night and rowdiness.
And Cascabel, it seemed, would not have been any different. Along with the bottomless cocktails, the current locations already feature happy hours and flights of tequila. “They also,” said Small, “invite SantaCon attendees to come to their bars during the annual drunkfest.”
Also of concern to Small was that EMP’s co-op board initially didn’t want to discuss the plan for Taco 1584. Small said that at a recent co-op meeting, when the board’s president, Mark Andermanis, was asked about it, he said the matter would be discussed at a “closed meeting” between board members.
“They refused to answer questions,” said Small. The decision to impose restrictions on the restaurant’s operation, he added, was only done after shareholders started complaining and distributing fliers opposing its moving in.
Winfield, who served on the board of directors from 1996-1999, seemed to agree. “It appears the board shares information after everything is settled,” she said.
Andermanis wasn’t available for comment when T&V called him about the issue, but a member of EMP’s co-op board, Mala Mosher, confirmed that the deal with Cascabel’s owners was now officially off the table.
“Both parties agreed that they were not going to continue” in negotiations, said Mosher.
However, she said the lack of information given to tenants wasn’t intentional, but that when the talks began, the co-op board had not yet been presented with a detailed business plan. Once restrictions were brought up, “I don’t think it was doable for them,” she said.
In a letter to CB6 dated April 18, the board said it would have liked to see a license given with restrictions because the proposed space has been vacant for years and is hard to rent because of how small it is.
According to another shareholder, Jeanne Poindexter, the last tenant, Carvel, closed after its rent was doubled. Fortunately for EMP, she added, it’s currently the only vacant space in the Mitchell-Lama complex’s retail strip.
When asked for comment about the plans being scrapped, a manager at Cascabel Taqueria, who said she fields calls for the owner, claimed to have no knowledge of the proposal to open a location at East Midtown Plaza. Chiong and Gaudeau did not respond to the call from T&V. The restaurant, online, claims it has the best tacos in New York.
Cascabel Taqueria wants to lease the old Carvel store. They would want to put seating in the public space.
First of all, Hooray to the board for finally finding a tenant for this store. The rental income will benefit all of us here at EMP. Also, having a nice restaurant with outdoor seating would enhance the neighborhood and be a place people at EMP could enjoy. Having people dining there would probably keep away the hoards of pigeons and loud bums that hang out there now!
Apparently, there are already some obstructionists who are trying to stop Cascabel from succeeding with a flyer asking you to attempt to syop thenm form getting a liquor license which of course, a restaurant, particularly a Mexican restaurant has to have to succeed. Thsi flyer says that Cascabel features bottomless cocktails. That is not true-They only offer unlimited drinks on their weekend brunch menu and that’s with a 60 minute time limit! Really-How many Margaritas can a person drink in 60 minutes? http://www.nyctacos.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/02.01.14-Brunch_menu_for_print.pdf
I have a friend who lives directly across Second Avenue on the 2nd floor from the Upper East Side Cascabel. It is not noisy at all and a fun, very tasty and lovely restaurant.
After a brief stint as an over-priced Greek restaurant, the storefront at 22nd Street and 3rd Avenue has been restored to the Lyric Diner. Welcome back and we hope the meat loaf is as good as it always was. Take note restauranteurs; You can’t price your food at whatever you want, it has to have some relationship to the value of what you’re offering and your location.
Shaka Burrito on 23rd Street between 2nd and 3rd Avenues had a soft opening today.
We tried a North Shore Chicken Taco and thought it was taste! E komo mai!
The 23rd Street Express chinese take-out restaurant on 23rd Street between 2nd & 3rd Avenue is gone and has been replaced by Rats! Hopefully, the rats came AFTER the restaurant closed. Maybe if the building owner cleaned up the garbage that’s been lying outside for months now, they wouldn’t have a rat problem! It appears that this building and the one next to have been deserted, Undoubtedly, we will soon have one more faceless, bland luxury high-rise blighting the neighborhood and be losing more ‘affordable housing’! Isn’t there a community board? Is there any such thing as city planning? It seems Real Estate Developers and the resultant banks and drug stores are all that’s going to be left. Any old time stores are rapidly disappearing along with the favor that makes NEW YORK CITY!
Please be sure to patronize Kipsey’s. They are serving up some great American comfort food with a bit of a Middle Eastern influence. They have one of the best burgers in Manhattan with a proprietary meat blend (we like it with the Gruyere cheese and carmelized onions) and amazing fries. They just introduced a new cocktail menu that’s defininitely mixologist inspired. They have a 4-star rating on Yelp and some great reviews. Also 5 out of 5 stars on MenuPages and 4.5 out of 5 stars on Trip Advisor.
The owners Arnon and Melissa are the nicest people; Be sure to say Hi.
They had a bit of a glitch with their air conditioning but that’s been fixed.
We have long-needed a great, comfortable neighborhood place and hangout like this!
Kipsey’s is at 438 Second Avenue at 25th Street
Goodfella’s pizza/italian restaurant has opened on 2nd Avenue between 22 and 23 Street. They claim to have The World’s Best Pizza http://www.goodfellas.com/
While we’re on the latest Pizza News, Papa John’s on 2nd Avenue between 24th and 25th moved out in the middle of the night and closed. Probably way too much competition with 4 pizza places in 3 blocks; They had to face Grimaldi’s who claims g*d doesn’t make better pizza, Goodfella’s claiming to have the World’s Best Pizza and the old long-time neighborhood standby Mike’s who makes a damn good pie. Also, the $1 pizza at 28th Street and 2nd Avenue.